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Intel 8th Gen & Ryzen Mobile | The Full Nerd Ep 34 (3 of 4)
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AMD Ryzen APU with Radeon Vega graphics unboxing and install
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The hole discussion about 24 hr connections from launch is stupid. Your console PS4/Xbox is bricked if you don't have internet to connect to right off the bat.
Is nVidia ever going to put full featured async compute into it's cards or are they going to just push Direct X 11 and show the FPS gain each time for marketing? I just want games made for the future rather than still stuck on DX11.
Brad, great analysis on 1070ti positioning. But a comment on mining: GPU mining is a good thing, and like the technology they power, it will only keep growing. New uses for GPU's may disrupt traditional pricing in the short term, but increased demand and market space will surely drive competition, innovation, and ultimately better relative pricing in the long term.
Alaina curses. Gordon: "Family shooooow." Alaina: "Sorry." There goes the Disney sponsorship… Bwa ha haha. Plus, Mickey mouse impersonation is comedy gold!
Nba players don't compare their game to high school players. Why are pc gamers so enthused with comparing themselves to consoles geard towards mostly children.
I think the GTX 1070Ti looks better than the GTX 1080 for most cases now. It's enough for 1440p, and unless you have a high refresh monitor, you won't really get much more from the GTX 1080.
34:00 I would suggest that the "death of console gaming" predictions from a few years ago was less because of streaming games, but rather because of the rise of mobile gaming – people were like.. everyone's just gonna be playing on their phones. Why would you ever buy a giant expensive box?? But yea, people have a short memory when it comes to these macro gaming trends either way haha
I like how that bald guy was yawning when he said XboxOne. These guys are trying to provoke Xbox fanboys to increase traffic on their channel. Also it's really funny that pc site is covering a console so much all of sudden.
So many people seem to fault Nvidia for making the 1070 Ti, like it's an invalid attack on AMD. It's just standard competitive business practice which benefits the consumer. It would be horrible business practice to just allow your competitor to steal market share instead of updating an 18 month old SKU. Would it be any different if Nvidia just reduced the price of the old 1070 to $250, which is what usually happens, no it wouldn't. In business, you MUST compete, or you are eliminated. Why not say "How dare AMD create the Vega 56 to steal Nvidia's 1070 market"? You don't say it because it's insane.
It's funny you mention that Nvidia might steal AMDs color when AMD actually did steal Intel's I3, I5, I7 naming and stole the x299 motherboard, forcing Intel to change the next gen to x399.
is that gordon previously from maximum pc? dude…chill on console players… i have an ps4/xb1/pcgtx1080…. i just prefer a ps4 because of their exclusive global studio single player games, laid back use, and physical discs that i can sell after completion. i only play RTS and Civ games on my pc…
Gordon is the only reason I started listening to this podcast. I followed him from Maximum PC. And boy, he doesn't disappoint. He makes me laugh every time.
Love you guys, but miners are not buying up all the cards. In fact, it is the polar opposite. The best card for mining is an undervolted v56, and best case scenario is about a year return on investment (compared to a 2 month roi on an 8GB rx580 February-August of 57-59 days; with a small blip in July). Then a 1070ti, then a 1070 (some core oc’d, some mem oc’d, depending on what you are mining), with a return of a little over 1 year per card.
Essentially, it’s just not a good investment right now. If you have the hardware and it’s mostly paid off, great, mine cryptonite like a nut, but this is the time to invest $ in crypto, not the hardware (unless you are investing in ASIC miners which are obviously completely different than gpu mining).
Edit: The price spike is do to retailers holding as much profit as possible, and so many people are ignorant to the state of mining, they still over pay because of misinformation which is rampant, even in the tech enthusiast community. It’s frustrating.
The only cards worth buying atm are the v56 which you can flash to 64 levels and OC insanely easy, a 1050ti, or used. That’s it.
No way I’d pay for a 1080ti, as it’s 18 month old tech, built on 18 month old tech…it is pointless considering it’s certainly not a solid 60+FPS high settings card on most graphically intense games not built on Vulkan.
Just buy a v56 for $400, or a 970 for $135-$145 as a place holder until new tech drops. I just see no point in blowing $500+ on a gpu that is this old.
Btw, in March and early April, the 8GB 580 was available from almost every brand for $199-$209, and the 1060 6GB was commonly $209-$219.
Gordon Ung might have been drunk during the PC build (he was) but he still made more sense than the others with regard to consoles vs. PC's. Just saying.
Nvidia launch 1070ti out of spite because they caught wind of AMD partnering with Intel…. how can Nvidia exist when the both of your competitor team up to screw you.
its to early for 4k.sony and ms are pushing 4k tv's.if you dont already own a 4k hdr tv and have to buy one for a xbox one x its best to just buy a pc for 1080p/60fps.the cost of a 4k tv and xbox one x will be around $1000 or more and most of the games will be still 4k/30fps which is the same as 1080p/30fps.to me.if people were whining about 1080p/30fps they will be whining about 4k/30fps.
so to sum it up up unless you want to drop over $1200 for a 4k tv and xbox one x its cheaper to build a 1080p/60fps pc it it will be so much smoother.
The hole discussion about 24 hr connections from launch is stupid. Your console PS4/Xbox is bricked if you don't have internet to connect to right off the bat.
Thanks Nerds I needed a good laugh !
PC only have better graphics and performance if you can afford to put the money in it. Not ALL PC's
Never heard anything about RYZEN MOBILE.
Is nVidia ever going to put full featured async compute into it's cards or are they going to just push Direct X 11 and show the FPS gain each time for marketing? I just want games made for the future rather than still stuck on DX11.
Gordon, I agree. Consoles are for amateurs. Esports are played with PC's.
Brad, great analysis on 1070ti positioning. But a comment on mining: GPU mining is a good thing, and like the technology they power, it will only keep growing. New uses for GPU's may disrupt traditional pricing in the short term, but increased demand and market space will surely drive competition, innovation, and ultimately better relative pricing in the long term.
Im still using my skylake i7 6700k
Mickey "Gaming" Mouse is piss- uhh, peeved by this episode. No Disney bucks for you!
Alaina curses. Gordon: "Family shooooow." Alaina: "Sorry." There goes the Disney sponsorship… Bwa ha haha. Plus, Mickey mouse impersonation is comedy gold!
The 1070Ti has 2432 cuda cores, the 1070 has 1920.
Yeah, totally everyone was trying to build PC's for "funsies" when comparing it to a X1X.
I have fibre net and unlimited download woohoo..
Great all. Like always 🙂 I'm still using the R9 290X
Nba players don't compare their game to high school players. Why are pc gamers so enthused with comparing themselves to consoles geard towards mostly children.
I think the GTX 1070Ti looks better than the GTX 1080 for most cases now. It's enough for 1440p, and unless you have a high refresh monitor, you won't really get much more from the GTX 1080.
34:00 I would suggest that the "death of console gaming" predictions from a few years ago was less because of streaming games, but rather because of the rise of mobile gaming – people were like.. everyone's just gonna be playing on their phones. Why would you ever buy a giant expensive box?? But yea, people have a short memory when it comes to these macro gaming trends either way haha
I like how that bald guy was yawning when he said XboxOne. These guys are trying to provoke Xbox fanboys to increase traffic on their channel. Also it's really funny that pc site is covering a console so much all of sudden.
I like he was stammering. Xbox making him stammer lol
So many people seem to fault Nvidia for making the 1070 Ti, like it's an invalid attack on AMD. It's just standard competitive business practice which benefits the consumer. It would be horrible business practice to just allow your competitor to steal market share instead of updating an 18 month old SKU. Would it be any different if Nvidia just reduced the price of the old 1070 to $250, which is what usually happens, no it wouldn't. In business, you MUST compete, or you are eliminated. Why not say "How dare AMD create the Vega 56 to steal Nvidia's 1070 market"? You don't say it because it's insane.
It's funny you mention that Nvidia might steal AMDs color when AMD actually did steal Intel's I3, I5, I7 naming and stole the x299 motherboard, forcing Intel to change the next gen to x399.
OMG she is perfect!!!!
How can I meet a girl like her?
I'm getting 50 meg downloads on my Windows Store downloads
is that gordon previously from maximum pc? dude…chill on console players… i have an ps4/xb1/pcgtx1080…. i just prefer a ps4 because of their exclusive global studio single player games, laid back use, and physical discs that i can sell after completion. i only play RTS and Civ games on my pc…
a 1070 should by now cost around 330-350 by normal market standards, but since the Bitcoin-rush its impossible..
or she can by a costume air cooler for the card around 50-60 , and the noise issue is the past….
also you get a exlusive EMP space fighter in Star Citizen bundle for that price… just saying
Gordon is the only reason I started listening to this podcast. I followed him from Maximum PC. And boy, he doesn't disappoint. He makes me laugh every time.
Was that Micky or Goofy they were doing?
Way too much helium being pumped into the room….
Love you guys, but miners are not buying up all the cards. In fact, it is the polar opposite. The best card for mining is an undervolted v56, and best case scenario is about a year return on investment (compared to a 2 month roi on an 8GB rx580 February-August of 57-59 days; with a small blip in July). Then a 1070ti, then a 1070 (some core oc’d, some mem oc’d, depending on what you are mining), with a return of a little over 1 year per card.
Essentially, it’s just not a good investment right now. If you have the hardware and it’s mostly paid off, great, mine cryptonite like a nut, but this is the time to invest $ in crypto, not the hardware (unless you are investing in ASIC miners which are obviously completely different than gpu mining).
Edit: The price spike is do to retailers holding as much profit as possible, and so many people are ignorant to the state of mining, they still over pay because of misinformation which is rampant, even in the tech enthusiast community. It’s frustrating.
The only cards worth buying atm are the v56 which you can flash to 64 levels and OC insanely easy, a 1050ti, or used. That’s it.
No way I’d pay for a 1080ti, as it’s 18 month old tech, built on 18 month old tech…it is pointless considering it’s certainly not a solid 60+FPS high settings card on most graphically intense games not built on Vulkan.
Just buy a v56 for $400, or a 970 for $135-$145 as a place holder until new tech drops. I just see no point in blowing $500+ on a gpu that is this old.
Btw, in March and early April, the 8GB 580 was available from almost every brand for $199-$209, and the 1060 6GB was commonly $209-$219.
Can't wait for the next episode to discuss Intel H-Series processors with AMD GPUs.
Is the XBox One X the best 1080P 60 FPS game unit out today for the price?
I spent close to 1800.00 on a pc and cant do [email protected] on all games. so if I can get a console that does [email protected] and some games at [email protected] im gladly buy one 🙂
Gordon Ung might have been drunk during the PC build (he was) but he still made more sense than the others with regard to consoles vs. PC's. Just saying.
35:30 gotta love Gordon
Nvidia launch 1070ti out of spite because they caught wind of AMD partnering with Intel…. how can Nvidia exist when the both of your competitor team up to screw you.
its to early for 4k.sony and ms are pushing 4k tv's.if you dont already own a 4k hdr tv and have to buy one for a xbox one x its best to just buy a pc for 1080p/60fps.the cost of a 4k tv and xbox one x will be around $1000 or more and most of the games will be still 4k/30fps which is the same as 1080p/30fps.to me.if people were whining about 1080p/30fps they will be whining about 4k/30fps.
so to sum it up up unless you want to drop over $1200 for a 4k tv and xbox one x its cheaper to build a 1080p/60fps pc it it will be so much smoother.
Xone X does not do 1080p/60 fps on every game. It's not a Pc,it can't scale with every game like that.
Since there is not a PC for $500 that can compare to the Xbox1X, that why the Xbox1X wins!!!!!
Who's farting at 25:10?
SMART ALECS!
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buy a GPU with motherboard rip
Has anyone tried using a microsoft intelli2000 mouse and keyboard ??? I think they worked with the unsupported 360 early on and I'm kinda curious.